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    May 31, 2009

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    Great read Nancy! Sounds like you should be granted an interview with the woman. You can go get those watermelons now.

    How do you tell a little girl that her mother tried to kill her and successfully killed her brother in such a manner? On the other hand, millions of children all around the world are exposed to horrors every day.

    It's hard to wrap my mind around it.

    Very graphically imagined. I'm all in favor of the suggestions on the Oregonian site. Or if that's too extreme, a couple of months of daily waterboarding at the very least.

    I suspect she stopped on the bridge with her car. While that bridge sees traffic, at one a.m. in the morning, Portland in general sees very little traffic, let alone on the Sellwood bridge. In fact, I propse, most of the bridges of Portland are relatively quiet at one a.m. in the morning.

    Also given the clarity of which witnesses express hearing, the din of road traffic had it been there would have marred the audio.

    Or so I think.

    I would like to think of that girl as emerging tough and extraordinary, even fearless, knowing that the worst thing that could ever happen to her or any human, has already happened. Among most cultures that have shamanic traditions, the people who become shamans are usually those who have suffered and survived extraordinary catastrophes and illnesses--to the brink of death and back. This may sound corny and optimistic (because it is), but there will be enough people suggesting to this girl that she is broken and doomed to a lifetime of victimhood and thereapy. I hope instead she rages!

    After reading this, I had the same thought as Nathan. That bridge is not busy at that time of the morning and actually, the whole area is pretty quiet. I was also thinking you should go there at the same time, hard to do I know; I can barely stay awake past ten myself. Yet I think you would get more of the feel of the whole thing albeit creeped out at the same time.

    I have to tell you, when I read Nathan's comment, I felt as though I might vomit. It's just... it's very to go there. But I appreciate what you both have written. I've been pretty stable on this story, I think keeping a little distance from the hardest parts as self-preservation; to be able to keep working. Anyway, thank you for reading.

    this is chilling, Nancy, and I too have been wondering very much how it happened but couldn't think too deeply about it, I can't watch the news reports on TV, I can read about it but it weighs me so. My own four- and seven-year-olds are heavy, so heavy, and it takes everything in me to imagine how much work it would be to lift them over the railing. and to think of my own four-year-old, in the water, I have to stop thinking.

    I grew up in this neighborhood, or thereabouts, and have walked and bicycled across the bridge many times. it's so narrow and frightening, even for an adult, even in a car.

    I agree that she must have stopped her car on the bridge. in the middle of the night, it's almost remote, not a bridge in a city at all.

    I don't think there's any chance she stopped her car on that narrow bridge. Cars coming from either direction would have stopped to assist her thinking her car was broken down. She choose that time of the "day" to avoid attention.

    The story, as a whole, just makes me angry. As a parent of two young children (5 and 7), I cannot fathom how someone could give life and then take it away.

    What's especially troubling is that she surely was not able to toss both over at the same time. I suspect it was the youngest although it doesn't make any difference. Both were old enough to know they were in a bad situation.

    If she was this unhappy, she should have taken her own life although I'm fairly confident that prospect scared the shit out of her. Too bad she didn't give that benefit to her children.

    Corny is good. Let's hope for Hillary's ending. This event that happened is a tragedy all around. Unfortunately, we cannot choose our parents, and these two children were given awful ones. It seems that all we can do is try to understand the history or background that led up to this. Perhaps with some understanding, we can prevent this from occurring ever again, though it surely will. Wishing the same fate for the mother is unproductive, meaningless, and self-serving. In fact, we become more like her when we think this way. In any case, I have not done much chatting online, and I think I've realized that I'm not cut out for it. So, over and out. Congratulations on your Best Coffee in PTown award. Hi to Din.

    Thanks, Steve. Well said. I, too, am so hoping for what Hillary wrote.

    OT: I recall a conversation here recently about WWI survivors. Well, the last Australian to serve in that war has died today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090603/lf_nm_life/us_australia_soldier

    This belongs in New York TImes Magazine.

    I must confess that I had to stop reading your narrative about 1/2 way through because it was so disturbing - as a parent of young children I could not muster the guts to read through the imagined avenues. I felt nauseous at the thought of making it a game to get them on the bridge, and could not go further today.

    Please take that as a complement; I had to put it down because it was so spot on.

    Out of this, I have learned something.

    2 years ago we knew another woman and her 6-yr-old son very briefly who by coincidence lived near that bridge for a while. She had moved into what amounted to a space that Chuck Palahniuk might imagine: a daylight basement on the river - which sounds good in concept but was actually hugely depressing - perpetual dampness, low bunker-like concrete ceilings, bare light bulbs and worn out linoleum floors. I am sad to admit that given her very visible manic instability at times and bouts with clinical depression, upon our visit to her place I had wondered morbidly what she would be capable of in a moment of abject distress.

    I felt horrible, ashamed even, for indulging such awful, seemingly condemnatory thoughts of another human being who clearly loved her child above all else, but could not physically manage her own emotions at times.

    For her it was not just general instability, but seemed to be severely exacerbated by seasonal depression, perceived social alienation (she just "didn't fit in in Portland" (her words)), and manic mood swings that in my uneducated estimation likely required medication. She eventually moved to a much brighter location in California about a year ago, and is apparently doing better - though we have since lost all contact with her.

    I haven't given her much thought until now.

    I'm deeply disturbed that I guess I was not wrong to think that maybe the unthinkable, is possible (though I never imagined such a horror as this). I wonder if any of this woman's friends or acquaintances had similar shamed worries but ignored the ideas thinking them "indencent" - I'm sure someone is going to be asking that question of them very soon.

    Truly well done Nancy. One of these days I'll get the courage to read the rest, but I have a feeling it won't be until my children are much, much older.

    In 1993, Susan Smith secured her two little boys, aged 3 and 14 months, in the back seat of her car and then let it slide into a lake in South Carolina. When they pulled the car out of the water, they found the two little boys were holding hands. I think of my two little grandsons and, God in heaven, I can't imagine how anyone - no matter how "disturbed"- could do such an unspeakable thing.

    "I can't imagine how anyone - no matter how "disturbed"- could do such an unspeakable thing."

    I completely agree.

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